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  • 7436
    Journeyman Forumator
    • Jan 2006
    • 74

    1953 Pa-22-135/150

    N#:3446A
    Type A/C: PA-22-150
    Engine: HP: 150 narrow deck chrome cylinders
    Propeller: Sesenich 74DM60
    Wheelpants: None
    Wing Tip Mods: None
    Any other mods that are pertinent: None
    Altitude: (Remember 7,000 feet MSL would be optimum, several altitudes
    desireable) 6500
    OAT at flight level: 75 degrees F.
    Altimeter setting: (needed to accurately calculate Density Altitude) 29.92
    RPM Mech. Tach: 2450
    Digital Tach:
    Ground Speed by GPS or Loran, 10 mile course: 123 mph Average GPS
    Track out: 127 mph
    Track Back: 119 mph
    Comments: I run engine 2450 full throttle, rich of peak lean; 250 hours SMOH to new specs; "cruise" prop Sesenich 74DM60; full tanks, 240 pilot, 25 lbs in baggage. Too many antennaes! Needs Wax.

    Thanks for your support
    Last edited by 7436; 01-11-2008, 08:56 PM. Reason: Unfinished
  • Bruce

    #2
    did you install a 150 in place of a 135?

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    • 7436
      Journeyman Forumator
      • Jan 2006
      • 74

      #3
      Yes,

      The conversion was very straightforward by the STC. Airplane gained about 40 pounds; used all the same accessories and prop; repitched prop to 58-60; oil-breather overboard tube had to be rerouted slightly; put on new carb; rebuilt baffling to match cylinders. I've been very happy with the extra power and more modern engine. I was not happy with the cost. I probably spent $15-16k on getting everything in order (which included buying a useless "core"). I really got burnt on an 0-320 from an Apache; turned out to have been in a serious wreck in Alaska which was not noted on the logs. Crank had to be replaced; case had to be replaced; cylinders were garbage---my fault for being stupid.

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      • 12944

        #4
        Been there too, have to watch out for that. I buy engines and then overhaul them and sell them or put them in a project. I have got burnt on some of my early projects also. It can be risky sometimes, but I feel your pain. I agree with the extra power, I would not own one w/o a 150hp minimum, but I like putting my 180hp engines in even better.

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        • Leo Bachman
          New Forumator
          • Sep 2005
          • 17

          #5
          What did you do about the wings regarding the 12 rib on the 135H.P. and the 13 rib required for the 150 H.P. ?

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          • Gilbert Pierce
            Keyboard Burninator
            • Dec 2005
            • 979

            #6
            The number of ribs determines V speeds limits. Replacing a 135 or even 108 hp can be done. The VNE, VNO and Va speeds just remain the same.
            I replaced a 108hp engine with a 150 hp engine on my Clipper. Same V speeds for 108 Clipper but got a 150 lb. gross wt. increase based on the increased hp.
            Gilbert Pierce
            Ex Board Member

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            • 7436
              Journeyman Forumator
              • Jan 2006
              • 74

              #7
              The STC from 135 to 150 does not *permit an increase in gross weight; placard speeds remain the same. No change was required; I just resist the temptation to overload the plane and fly within the factory authorized specifications.

              * (I'll recheck the gross-weight issue. I don't think I was elgible for an increase.)
              Last edited by 7436; 03-11-2007, 11:44 PM.

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              • Tom T.
                Official Forum Resident
                • Sep 2005
                • 1461

                #8
                You can increase the gross weight but it all depends on what the serial numbers are. If you check out the tcds you will see what I am referring to. My 1951 did not fall within the required serial numbers.
                Tom T.

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